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- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 18 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 302
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- Today's Topics:
- 25_years_of_portable_phone
- Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
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- Date: 17 Mar 94 19:33:16 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: 25_years_of_portable_phone
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- ==============================================================
- HISTORICAL NOTE: 25th ANNIVERSARY OF THE CORDLESS PHONE
- ==============================================================
-
- Background:
-
- The purpose of this message is to contribute to the collective
- justifiable pride that radio amateurs maintain for their contri-
- butions to the advancements of the radio arts.
-
- Radio amateurs should be aware that the cordless telephone, used
- in millions of households today, was pioneered by an amateur.
-
- Inventor:
-
- George Sweigert, now 74, licensed as N9LC since 1975 and formerly
- W8ZIS, was granted a patent in June, 1969 for a wireless portable
- telephone device. The specific patent claim was for "full duplex
- radio communications".
-
- The original instrument was dubbed "extensi-phone", and consisted
- of a 'base station', acousticly coupled to the telephone network,
- and a small hand-held 'extension'. The caller could receive
- incoming telephone calls, as the telephone company's ringer voltage
- activated the telephone instruments ringer, an inductively coupled
- circuit (prior to the FCC's Carterphone Decision it was illegal to
- directly connect to the telephone line) activated the base station's
- transmitter, signalling the portable extension device. The telephone
- call then took place.
-
- After an FCC type acceptance review, the commissioner at that time
- commented, "this is the most significant advancement in communications
- since the invention of the television...".
-
- Today, N9LC is active on CW traffic nets and exoctic CW DX-ing. He
- resides in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and is a member of the Fort Wayne
- Amateur Radio Club.
-
- An application is pending before tyhe Inventors Hall of Fame, Akron,
- Ohio, to induct this instrument into the Hall of Fame.
-
- The author:
-
- David Sweigert, KE9YP, is the third born son of Mr. Sweigert.
-
-
- ==============================================================
-
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-
- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 10:59:57 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!pipex!uknet!uos-ee!ee.surrey.ac.uk!M.Willis@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CMIACE.D9C@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com>, dstock@hpqmoca.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) writes:
- |>
- |> I'm happy with my choice, a Diesel powered Range-Rover derivative
- |> called a "Discovery"
- |>
- |> Give serious thought to Diesels, no ignition, no computers
- |>
- |>
- |> David GM4ZNX
- Yes, but at a mere 18,000 pounds not many can afford such a car. Practically, I
- found the Cavallier reasonable RF quiet. Fiat Uno, too noisy. Diesels are
- definately better, they have a bigger battery too.
-
- Mike
-
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-
- Date: 17 Mar 1994 11:54:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!bnrgate!bnr.co.uk!uknet!EU.net!sun4nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!blade.stack.urc.tue.nl!robs@network.UCSD
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2m7pt4$dc9@news.iastate.edu>, <763851432snz@g8sjp.demon.co.uk>, <2m7v0h$gld@news.iastate.edu>
- Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?
-
- In article <2m7v0h$gld@news.iastate.edu>,
- William J Turner <wjturner@iastate.edu> wrote:
- >In article <763851432snz@g8sjp.demon.co.uk> ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk writes:
- >>Actually, I *have* checked the international agreements. Sadly, I can find no
- >>distinction between 'amateur service' and any other callsigns. It is, of
- >>course, possible that I'm looking in the worng place.
- >
- Try the ITU Radio Regulations
- >I know I read somewhere (sorry, don't know exactly where :-( ) that amateur
- >calls are to follow the pattern I gave earlier (prefix--number--suffix). As I
- >understand, this is for ham calls only, although the country designations used
- >in the prefixes are used for all radio stations--amateur, commercial,
- >government, military, etc.
- >
- >>As I've said, I have been unable to find anything that differentiates amateur
- >>callsigns allocations (at an international level) from other classes.
- >>
- >>If you accept the premise that *all* callsigns are issued according to
- >>international agreement, then either they will have to contain (somewhere) a
- >>numeric character, or they will not. Fine. A strange coincidence: callsigns
- >>assigned to aircraft (and shipping, for that matter ...) rarely - although
- >>the FAA seem to be the very exeception that proves the rule - contain numeric
- >>characters.
- >
-
- As far as I remember from may days at the Nautical College Rotterdam (Radio
- officer training) there really is an imposed standard.
- Somewhere I must still have my "Handbook for use in the maritime mobile and
- maritime mobile satellite service" being a subset of the Radio Regulations
- from the ITU. There might be more info. From my memory:
- Shipping: Fixed stations (coast stations): XXX(#(#)) meaning three
- alpha's as main callsign, to be used on the general calling frequency's
- whereas a numerical suffix (to the call) is allowed to identify different
- frequencies in different bands.
-
- Mobile stations (ships): XXXX or XX###(#). De XX###(#) version is often
- used for yachts, and non-seagoing vessels. The XXXX is used (by tradition)
- by large seaships (cargo vessels, passenger liners etc.)
-
- NB: There is no such thing as prefix here. Just callsign and suffix.
-
- >As I said before, I only heard about this system for amateur calls. There may
- >possibly be some system for other calls, also, but I have not read of it
- >anywhere that I know of...
- >
- >>British aircraft registrations and callsigns look like 'GBOAC'. I expect more
- >>than a few D.C. area residents have seen that ....
- >>
- According to same source as above Aircraft use XXXXX as callsign. No
- prefix, no suffix. Sometimes there also variations like X(X)#####(#)
- probably just like shipping because of limited number of possible XXXXX
- calls.
- >>Oh - and where's the necessity to have a *number* to separate a prefix from
- >>a suffix??? When you operate in another country, don't you (generally) take
- >>the prefix (ITU assigned) and separate it from the suffix (your entire call)
- >>by a '/' ?
- Wasn't that the otherway around these days? <foreign prefix>/<your call>?
- >
- >I'm sorry to sound as if there must be a number between them; I meant there
- >must be *something*. A prefix and suffix must have something to be the prefix
- >and suffix of, and in this system it is always a number. This makes it easy
- >to tell the prefix and suffix, even in the prefix has a number in it. The
- >separator (or the mandatory number as I called it earlier--however misleading
- >it was) is always the *last* number. (Thus our recurring A6#XX has # as the
- >separaotr.)
-
- According again to above source, I recall the imposed call-sign scheme for
- amateur radio is : XX#XX(X). Because many callsigns go back way before these
- regulations, old callsign are allowed, provided the prefix is according to
- the current prefix allocation.
- Country's are free to attach a meaning to the '#' (geographic location or
- licence type or clubstation or repeater or whatever) and basically
- two-letter suffixes should not be assigned anymore. They should die out of
- old age, leaving only three-letter suffixes (but then - we're all going
- that way).
-
- I still have some ITU docs lying around somewhere or stashed in a box on
- the attic from my sea-going period (stopped in `82). If someone doubt my
- response (or rather a lot of someones) I might try to dig 'em up.
- 73,
- Rob Soulier, PA3AXI
-
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-
- Date: 17 Mar 1994 12:36:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!eos1.larc.nasa.gov!eckman@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <763851432snz@g8sjp.demon.co.uk>, <2m7v0h$gld@news.iastate.edu>, <2m9gdv$6un@tuegate.tue.nl>
- Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?
-
- With regard to the apparent international regulations requiring a
- specific format to an amateur callsign, could someone actually
- dig up article 32 of the ITU regulations (which deal with amateur
- radio communications) and let us know what it really says?
- Drawing analogies with AM radio station callsigns, coast guard,
- and airplane designators strikes me as entirely beside the point.
- The fact that the Marshall Islands are not using a number following
- their V7 prefix is not proof that a number isn't necessary. They
- may just be ignoring or ignorant of ITU regs.
- Could someone please quote the relevant ITU regs for us? Maybe
- someone at ARRL HQ with easy access to the text.
-
- Richard Eckman KO4MR
- NASA Langley
- eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov
-
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